Comments on: The Masonry and Ironwork of Cleveland http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/ News from the Rustbelt Sun, 06 May 2012 17:20:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Independent Blogger http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-914 Independent Blogger Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:59:54 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-914 Beautiful. I live in Akron and visit Cleveland frequently. I bought a turn of the century house precisely because I love good old architectural design and execution. I think it is a tragedy that we allow places like Cleveland and its inner ring suburbs (example: East Cleveland) to go to hell. It amounts to an unconscionable and inexcuseable loss of beauty. Drive down Euclid Avenue some time from Downtown to I-90. You can see the beauty that once was. It is amazing. The reason this kind of work is not seen much anymore is expense. It costs more up front to build. It costs more to maintain. Older buildings generally have layout, wiring and communications issues that new construction does not (and costs money to upgrade) Insurance companies don't want to value it and replace it in event of catastrophe, so they jack up the rates ... I was really hoping the Federal Stimulus would actually do something to help cities revitalize some of these buildings so that new businesses would come in and use them... IB Beautiful.

I live in Akron and visit Cleveland frequently. I bought a turn of the century house precisely because I love good old architectural design and execution. I think it is a tragedy that we allow places like Cleveland and its inner ring suburbs (example: East Cleveland) to go to hell. It amounts to an unconscionable and inexcuseable loss of beauty. Drive down Euclid Avenue some time from Downtown to I-90. You can see the beauty that once was. It is amazing.

The reason this kind of work is not seen much anymore is expense. It costs more up front to build. It costs more to maintain. Older buildings generally have layout, wiring and communications issues that new construction does not (and costs money to upgrade) Insurance companies don’t want to value it and replace it in event of catastrophe, so they jack up the rates …

I was really hoping the Federal Stimulus would actually do something to help cities revitalize some of these buildings so that new businesses would come in and use them…

IB

]]> By: Shane http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-913 Shane Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:06:04 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-913 Alot of the stonework tended to be done in the areas in which they were mined and then shipped to the site, very little custome stone work is done on site, so it's probable the stone work came from else where. Southern Indiana has quite a few stone quaries that still do custom stone work (they provided the stone for a lot of famous buildings like the Empire State building in NY and the Pentagon in DC). Alot of the stonework tended to be done in the areas in which they were mined and then shipped to the site, very little custome stone work is done on site, so it’s probable the stone work came from else where.
Southern Indiana has quite a few stone quaries that still do custom stone work (they provided the stone for a lot of famous buildings like the Empire State building in NY and the Pentagon in DC).

]]> By: Angie http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-910 Angie Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:07:07 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-910 Not a stonemason. There really are very few skilled stonemasons, if any, that can do the kind of work you see throughout Cleveland anymore. We live in the age of thrift. Not a stonemason. There really are very few skilled stonemasons, if any, that can do the kind of work you see throughout Cleveland anymore. We live in the age of thrift.

]]> By: Shaheen http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-909 Shaheen Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:49:27 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-909 Wikipedia says the Cleveland Federal Courthouse "is adorned by Cleveland Venus, a 37 feet (11 m) tall, 11.5 ton[vague] bronze sculpture created by Ohio artist Jim Dine. The headless and armless statue is one of the sculptor's variations on the Venus de Milo." Wikipedia says the Cleveland Federal Courthouse “is adorned by Cleveland Venus, a 37 feet (11 m) tall, 11.5 ton[vague] bronze sculpture created by Ohio artist Jim Dine. The headless and armless statue is one of the sculptor’s variations on the Venus de Milo.”

]]> By: Shaheen http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-908 Shaheen Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:44:17 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-908 There must still be some craftsmen left --- the Carl B Stokes Federal Court House was built in 2002! There must still be some craftsmen left — the Carl B Stokes Federal Court House was built in 2002!

]]> By: Rustwire: The Masonry and Ironwork of Cleveland | BLACKHEART Cleveland http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-905 Rustwire: The Masonry and Ironwork of Cleveland | BLACKHEART Cleveland Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:18:31 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-905 [...] that working stonemasons and ironworkers–craftsmen–are mainly a thing of the past, their legacy endures and continues to add character, beauty and sometimes even humor to the [...] [...] that working stonemasons and ironworkers–craftsmen–are mainly a thing of the past, their legacy endures and continues to add character, beauty and sometimes even humor to the [...]

]]> By: tonyg http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-902 tonyg Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:31:17 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-902 I note that Lake Erie Gray Winter Sky in many of the shots. I note that Lake Erie Gray Winter Sky in many of the shots.

]]> By: Special K http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-901 Special K Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:29:42 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-901 Thanks for sharing these beautiful photos which totally made me nostalgic for the Cleve. Great work, Angie! My favorites were always the Guardians of Traffic. Thanks for sharing these beautiful photos which totally made me nostalgic for the Cleve. Great work, Angie! My favorites were always the Guardians of Traffic.

]]> By: Kevin http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-900 Kevin Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:40:37 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-900 One minor quibble: Lincoln stayed at the <a href="http://ech.cwru.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=WH2" rel="nofollow">Weddell House</a>, which stood on the site of the Rockefeller Building. One minor quibble: Lincoln stayed at the Weddell House, which stood on the site of the Rockefeller Building.

]]> By: HHF http://rustwire.com/2009/11/02/the-masonry-and-ironwork-of-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-899 HHF Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:26:44 +0000 http://rustwire.com/?p=2558#comment-899 I *just* discovered this one - http://rustwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pa270053.jpg - just the other day. I'm pretty sure I stopped cold on the sidewalk; it was so beautiful and unexpected. I can't believe I had never noticed it before. I *just* discovered this one – http://rustwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pa270053.jpg – just the other day. I’m pretty sure I stopped cold on the sidewalk; it was so beautiful and unexpected. I can’t believe I had never noticed it before.

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